the templar is missing the specification of Hit Dice

The kyorkcha fails in the 5-3 table: Athasian weapons (p. 114).

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As I’ve written it elsewhere, I’m running Tyrian Conspiracy with the new R7 from Athas.org. 2 Players are playing gladiators (elf gladiator 6 and halfling gladiator 6). During the 10 game sessions, they never used their Gladiator performance abilities (Martial Stance, Martial Display, Team Strike). They thought about using it before they reach 6th level but they always choosed to attack normally instead of using their “gladiatoral performance”. I thought it would change with 6th level but between a move action, a second attack or even a bluff check, the gladiatoral performances doesn’t seem worthy.

1. Proposal: to change the action type: 1-5th level: move action; 6-11th level swift action; 12+th level immediate action.
2. Proposal: try to link this kind of feature with the Improved Feint ability. I say this because the temptation is huge to biclass gladiator/rogue… it would be better if there were already special gladiator class features interesting to use on surprised opponents. Here I’ve not specific proposal…

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I have just downloaded your DS3 R7 core book and I have a number page faults whicch do not allowme to fully enjoy your product. Specifically the pages: 107, 110, 138, 139,140, 225-230, 275-280, 313-end.
I have downloaded the product a number of times with the same faults. i would like to getthe complete book if possible.

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In the DS3 core rulebook a living mekillot costs 200cp to purchase. In the Athasian Emporium sourcebook a pound of mekillot flesh costs 150cp to purchase.

A mekillot weighs 6000 lbs. Discounting even half of this weight as bone and natural armor, a single mekillot bought alive fetches 200cp. However, if you carve up that mekillot and sell it in 1 lb. pieces, you stand to make 450,000cp.

Either the price of the mekillot should be adjusted, or the price of the mekillot meat should be adjusted.

Hello, I have a question regarding cleric armor feats. On page 33, it is stated that clerics in DS3 start with the light armor feat. However, on the next page under the starting packages subheading, the given examples all wear either medium or heavy armor, and one has a heavy wooden shield.

Also, on page 135, in the cleric domain section under the Mountainfury heading is the following:

'You do not suffer armor check penalties and encumbrance penalties to Climb checks.'

I didn't realize that light armor incurred any check penalties.

My question is: was the inclusion of medium/heavy armor and shield feats excluded intentionally or was it an oversight?

p. 147, the spell "Confessor's Flame": DF is listed as a component. But in the text there is "An open flame" mentioned as a focus, which is clearly not a DF for Templars.

p. 125, second column, first paragraph: "...they are reflections, and have no substance , noT existence, no life." - Should be: "... no existence...".

p. 132. second column, the domains "Broken Sands" and "Burning Eyes": Normally you put an full stop behind every entry in all the entries of the other domains. Here, in some entries the full stop is missing.

p. 146, the spell "Clear Water": "... an active human needs only 1/2 gallon..." - Should be "... only 1/2 a gallon...".

p. 81, column 1, section "Earth": "...time spent now investing N the future..." - should be: "...time spent now investing IN the future..."

p. 81, column 1, section "Water": "As such, those who worship Water..." - "Water" should be uncapitalised

p. 81, column 2, section "Sun": "Their PACK with the Paraelemental Lords..." - should be "Their PACT with the Paraelemental Lords..."

115, column 1, section "Ko": "Ko: The Ko..." - the second "Ko" should be uncapitalised.

p. 80: The section about religion in Heroic Characteristics seem to me quite odd at this part of the book.

I think in "Life On Athas" they would have a proper place.

Lord Kaladon of House Tomblador (LE male human, 8/dune trader 5) ^ ^ ?

Page 193 in the second paragraph under "Government and Politics".

It doesn't state the first class.

Greetings,

I downloaded the ds3_rc7 or in other words most recent Dark Sun 3.5 rules finally in one PDF.

A lot of well-made structuring, yet not atmospheric.

2.) Feats: You cause a weird way of making inferior feats seem like musts at startup. On 3.5 the SRD offers the list and right to modify, why didn`t you make a complete list? One list for all character creation, in spirit of tournament rules by which all at least know when they cheat...

3.) Attributes are damn low, all stats 9 spend 21 points or roll 4dice, ignore worst die andspread them so you can play the character you like to play...

4.)Classes. I like the divine mind character class. Personally I don't need you or your rules at all, especially as you didn't answer me in the past BUT were too craven to give me a PISS OFF on your own.

5.)Pterran ... I could use your own crap-excuse against you... that new races are not consistent with dark sun as known either. Did you ask your therapist, why you are so afraid of anything creative?

My regards

AMP

Greetings,

I downloaded the ds3_rc7 or in other words most recent Dark Sun 3.5 rules finally in one PDF.

A lot of well-made structuring, yet not atmospheric.

2.) Feats: You cause a weird way of making inferior feats seem like musts at startup. On 3.5 the SRD offers the list and right to modify, why didn`t you make a complete list? One list for all character creation, in spirit of tournament rules by which all at least know when they cheat...

3.) Attributes are damn low, all stats 9 spend 21 points or roll 4dice, ignore worst die andspread them so you can play the character you like to play...

4.)Classes. I like the divine mind character class. Personally I don't need you or your rules at all, especially as you didn't answer me in the past BUT were too craven to give me a PISS OFF on your own.

5.)Pterran ... I could use your owncrap-excuse against you... that new races are not consistent with dark sun as known. Did you ask your therapist, why you are so afraid of anything creative?

My regards

AMP

p. 59: In Table 2-5 the Hit Dice of the Templar class is missing.

p. 74: At the end of the Path Dexter entry it is said: "This feat can be selected only by preservers". There is no similar sentence at the end of the Path Sinister entry. My suggestion: Either delete this sentence (because the information is already covered in the prerequisites) or write a similar one at the Path Sinister entry. Otherwise it might seem thaht Path Sinister is open to preservers.

p. 53, column 2, section "combat", paragraph 1: "... to stand against the sheer might of Athas' fighter, gladiators ..." - Should be "of Athas' fighterS, gladiators"

p. 65, column 2, section "combat", paragraph 2: "Be prepared to run OF fly away ..." - Should be "to run OR fly away"

p. 65, column 2, section "Advancement", paragraph 2: "When you not studying..." - There should be an "ARE" before "studying"

p. 42, column 2, paragraph 1: "A master of crowd ... gladiators are trained to fight." There is a number mistake. Either "Masters of crowd control...gladiators are trained" or "A master of...the gladiator is trained" I'm also not sure whether there shouldn't be an "as" at the beginning of the sentence.

p. 42, column 2, paragraph 2:"They train to BEST wild beasts ...": Should be "BEAT"

p. 47, column 2, section "Other Classes", paragraph 1: "psions tend to TOWARDS a nearly worshipful attitude towards..." - Delete first "towards"

p. 47, column 2, section " Advancement", paragraph 1: "... before THEIR ever realized..." - Should be "THEY ever realized"

p. 48, column 2, section "NPC Reactions": "... and need not disguise..." - Insert "TO" before "disguise".

p. 51, column 1, section "Noteables": "... rarely found ON half-giants." - Shouldn't be "IN" or "WITH"?

p. 51, one sentence later: "Chukakcha the thri-kreen, was one of the first to be coin the term Kilktektet ... , was a psychic warrior" - First it should be "Thri-kreen", second "to be coin" doesn't make much sense. Third the structere is broken. Maybe it should be something like "Chukakcha the Thri-kreen, the first one who coined the term Kilktektet ... , was a psychic warrior"

This time I have to confess that I'm not sure about all the typos I point at. I'm not a native speaker, so there is a good chance that I point something out that is not wrong. I will put a question mark after entries I'm not certain about:

p. 32, column 2, section "Alignment": "...of the chosen kind of element OF paraelement." - last OF should be "OR"

p. 32. The sentence afterwards: "An aspiring cleric must ... role; opens the door to..." The second half doesn't make sense to me. Shouldn't there be a "because it" before "opens"?

p. 33, column 1, section "Playing a Cleric", 2nd paragraph: "...to expand its presence IN Athas" should be "ON Athas"

p. 34, column 1, section "Advancement": "grant such powers INTO you" Shouldn't it be "powers TO you"?

p. 37, column 1, section "Playing a Druid", 2nd paragraph: "You, like nature itself is neutral" - Shouldn't it be: "Like nature itself, you are neutral" or "You are neutral like nature itself"?

p. 37, column 2, section "Advancement", first paragraph: "You profit most ... THOUGHT your advnacement..." Shouldn't it be THROUGH?

p. 37. A sentence later: If you do multiclass, a level of barbarian is an excellent choice; the benefits..." - Shouldnt there be a "because of" before "the benefits"?

p. 38. column 2, section "Daily Life", 2nd paragraph: "...that cause it revenge himself against..." - Shouldn't it be "to revenge himself" or "revenge for himself" or something completely different?

p. 38, column 2, section "Notables": "sorcerer-kings and DEFILER usually" should be DEFILERS.

p. 38, column 2, section "Organisations", first paragraph: "Ever since the Eradiction, A N anti-druidic...": Should be "AN anti-druidic"

p. 10, Behind the Veil, 2nd line: "too simple a task to be considered" should be "a task to simple to be considered"

p.20-21: Sometimes KREEN has been written as KEEN. This is the case once on p.20, column 2, in the section "Personality": "A keen's life...". Twice it is the case on p. 21, column 1, section "Magic": "...power conflicts with a keen's belief. As well, the keen's lack of sleep..."

p. 23, column 2, entry about Saragar, Skills: "Autohipnosys" should be "AutohYpnosis".

p. 4, Column 2, Heading "1. Dark Sun is different from Traditional D&D": "Many monsters ... are not available IN Athas" - Should be ON.

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p. 282: Agis couldn't take a level as psiologist, because he wasn't able to manifst 5 lvl powers at the time he got his first psiologist level.

p. 283: The Gladiatoral Performances are omitted in the stats of Rikus.

p. 284;. The information what level Sadira has during day time that enables her to cast 9th lvl spells is missing.

p. 43, column 2: "Dragon's Fury"- The entry for this power has not an own paragraph like the others. p. 279, column 2: "However, ... THERE would need some way to keep Rajaat in his prison" - Change THERE to THEY p. 230, column 2, Section "NPC Reactions": "... with WITH schades of grey in between." - Delete second "WITH". p. 231, column 2, second paragraph: "To a member of the order ... can only interfere with the purity O psionics." Should be "OF".

Page 40 Column 1 Line 4 "commanding hundreds or even thousands of men into war."

Change into to in

Page 40 Column 1 First full paragraph "They learn the use of most weapons, the best armors and shields, as well as gaining special abilities to use with these weapons and armor."

Change to "They learn to use most weapons, the best armors and shields, and gain special abilities to use with these weapons and armor."

Page 40 Column 2 Paragraph 2 "The rangers of the Tablelands often receive the highest of the respect"

Change to "The rangers of the Tablelands often receive the highest respect"

Page 40 Column 2 Paragraph 2 "they often try to show how each is better than the other is."

Change to "better than the other"

Page 41 column 2 Paragraph 3 "Fighters can notoriety for their deeds,"

Change can to gain

Page 41 column 2 paragrapgh 6 "Because of that, their initial reaction is one step towards unfriendly than normal."

Change to "...one step closer towards..."

Page 41 column 2 "DC 10" "but they surely are more effective"

change to "but they are surely more effective"

Page 41 column 2 "DC15" "Fighters are combat‐oriented characters adept at hand‐on‐hand combat just as well as commanding entire armies."

Change to "... adept at hand to hand combat and commanding..."

Page 42 Column 1 "DC 20" "A fighter’s mere presence in the battlefield can be enough"

Change in to on

Page 42 Column 2 Paragraph 4 "After all, a long, drawn‐out combat is more a crowd pleaser than a ten‐second bout."

This sentence would fit better in the previous paragraph

Page 43 Column 2 "Threatening Glare is a mind–affecting gaze affect. Dragon’s Fury: A gladiator of 18th or higher level with 21 or more ranks in Perform"

Need to break section on Dragon's Fury into seperate paragraph

Page 43 Column 2 "Unarmed Strike" "At 2nd level you Improved Unarmed Strike as a bonus feat."

Change to "... you gain Improved"

Page 44 Column 2 "Parry" "You make an opposed attack roll with a –5 penalty against your attacker roll."

Change attacker roll to attack roll

Page 44 Column 2 "Playing a Gladiator" "You might be one of the gladiators that went out of job when the sorcerer‐king of you city was killed by Tyrians and now you have become a mercenary warrior,"

Change to "You might be one of the gladiators that lost their jobs when the sorcerer-king of your city..."

"You might have been able to flee from your owner and now user your sword to protect your slave tribe."

Change to "... now use your"

page 45 Column 1 Paragraph 4 "Wait for the right to deliver the final blow."

Change to "... the right moment to..."

Page 46 Column 1 "Notables" "Sandsinger is renowned elven jazst,"

Change to "... is a renowned..."

Page 46 Column 1 "NPC Reactions" "(whichever the employer possesses a surplus at the moment),"

Change to "... surplus of at..."

Page 46 Column 2 "DC15" "they seem to know with all kinds of weapons with the same degree of expertise."

Change to "they seem to use all kinds..."

Page 46 Column 2 Sample Encounter Paragraph 2 "when they refused of failed to pay the amount required, they were arrest"

Change to ... refused or failed" Change arrest to arrested

"Jarek, a cruel gladiator which has no qualms about fighting dirty."

change which to who

DS3 R7

Page 33 column 2 paragraph 1 "Tribal and primitive societies include shamans, who see to the spiritual needs of their groups, offering advice to the leaders and providing supernatural protection and offence."

Change offence to offense

Page 34 column 1 "Advancement" Paragraph 1 "After learning what your element could do, and that they could grant such powers into you,"

Change they to it and into to to

Page 34 Column 2 "Notables" "but it also can bring about his death of force him into exile."

Change of to or

"helping re‐imprisoning Rajaat back in to the Hollow."

Change helping re-imprisoning to helping to re-imprison

Page 34 Column 2 "Organizations" "or other organization that allows his free time to explore"

Change his to him

Page 35 Column 1 Paragraph 1 "relying on wisdom and experiences to provide a reasonable solution."

Change experiences to experience

Page 35 Column 1 "Cleric Lore" DC 15 "They can easily heal of harm those around him"

Change they to he or change him to them Change of to or

Page 35 Column 1 EL 7 "if she discovers anyone spying on her she curses them."

Change anyone to any or change them to him/her

Page 36 Column 1 Paragraph 2 "wanton destruction of the oasis will find themselves under the full fury of the druid"

Change themselves to them

Page 34 Column 1 Paragraph 3 "As a druid travels the tablelands"

I believe Tablelands should be capitalized

Page 34 Column 1 Paragraph 4 " Aarakocra, muls and Thri‐kreen"

Capitalize Muls

"Of the savage races, tareks"

Capitalize Tareks

Page 37 Column 1 "Playing a Druid" paragraph 2 "You, like nature itself is neutral."

Change is to are

Page 37 Column 1 "Religion" "A druid is an individual who has devoted themselves"

Change themselves to himself/herself

"nature on Athas, and in particular"

Run on sentence, change to "nature on Athas. In particular"

"each conducts their affairs as they see fit in their quest"

Change each to all

Page 37 Column 2 "Advancement" "You profit most from remaining a druid thought your advancement,"

Change thought to through

"Advancement" Paragraph 2 "During their time of wandering, a young druid learns about the world,"

Change "a young druid learns" to "young druids learn"

"in order to watch over a specific patch of land lands,"

Remove land

"and straighten their bond"

Change straighten to strengthen

Page 38 Column 2 Line 1 "were forced to either die in the hands"

Change in to at

Page 38 Column1 First full paragraph "avert to social interaction"

Change avert to to adverse to

Page 38 Column 2 Paragraph 3 "that cause is revenge himself against"

Change "cause is vengeance against"

Page 38 Column 2 "Notables" "Druids very rarely become famous, since they usually avoid social interaction combined the fact that it might put their lives at risk since usually sorcerer‐kings and defiler usually put a reward for the head of a notorious or troublesome druid."

Change to "Since they usually avoid social interaction, druids very rarely become famous. Additionally, fame might put their lives at risk, because sorcerer-kings and defilers usually put a reward on the head of a notorious or troublesome druid."

"A legend claim that"

Change to "A legend claims that"

Page 38 Column 2 "Organizations" "Ever since the Eradication, a n anti‐druidic jihad"

Typo a n should be an Page 39 Column 1 "DC 10" "drawing off their power"

Remove off -- change to "drawing their power"

The bookmarks are very confusing and not well done. I had to go through all of them and correctly redo the bookmark hierarchy.

I also deleted bookmarks that I thought were unneeded since multiple bookmarks point to the same page, but I can see why some people might like those so they are more of a small nitpick.

DS3 R7

page 25 Column 2 paragraph 2

"living by their wits and strengths in the wastes. Muls have a particular inclination this way of life,"

Change "strengths" to "strength" and "inclination this" to "inclination to this"

page 26 Column 2 Paragraph 3 "Becoming a barbarian let you further tap into your feral nature, letting you become one with the savage beast in your hear, and through your training,"

Change "let" to lets" and "hear" to "heart"

Page 27 Column 2 Paragraph 1 "The leader of Pillage, Chilod, is a tarek know for his outbursts of rage and cruelty, being one of the most feared chiefs of the"

Change "know" to known"

Page 30 Column 1 Paragraph 8 "You are the center of attention (whenever you want to), the person everyone"

Change to (whenever you want to be)

Page 30 Column 1 Paragraph 8 "Alternatively, you may have been blacklisted on your current location because of a"

Change from "blacklisted on" to "blacklisted at"

Page 30 Column 1 Paragraph 9 "most bards tend to relate to the Air ever‐changing nature,"

change "Air" to "Air's"

Page 30 Column 2 Paragraph 1 "Your work best with teammates"

Change "your work" to "you work"

Page 30 Column 2 Paragraph 2 "You can either emphasize on ability or nurse a broad range of abilities"

Change "emphasize on ability" to "emphasize one ability"

Page 31 Column 1 Bards On Athas "However, bards are noted to be extremely untrustworthy"

Change "noted" to "known"

Page 31 Column 2 Paragraph 3 "The human bard only known as Wheelock"

Change from "only known" to "known only"

Page 31 Column 2 Paragraph 5 "Common folk ten to have a hard time"

Change "ten" to "tend"

"depends on what he is pretending to be at a time"

change "at a time" to "at that time"

Page 32 Column 1 First full paragraph "in the frantic minutes after he concludes his assassination attempt and makes to flee."

Change "makes to flee" to "attempts to flee"

Page 32 Column 2 paragraph 2 "Athas is a dangerous world; this practicality dictates that clerics must be able to defend themselves capably."

Change "practicality" to "practicaly"

Thats all for now. Hope I'm not too annoying